Joe Rogan Experience: The host's two guests that may have been the tipping point for critics
In the recent past, Joe Rogan and his podcast have found themselves engulfed in controversy over interviews about Covid-19. Many influential names, like Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have expressed their concerns about it, Rogan has promised to “do my best in the future to balance things out.”
‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ can be heard on Spotify and because of its controversial content, more than 250 doctors even sent an open letter titled – ‘A call from the global scientific and medical communities to implement a misinformation policy’ to Spotify. The letter stated: “By allowing the propagation of false and societally harmful assertions, Spotify is enabling its hosted media to damage public trust in scientific research and sow doubt in the credibility of data-driven guidance offered by medical professionals.”
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Reportedly, two guests came on Rogan’s show who were majorly responsible for all the outcry. They are — Dr Robert Malone, who appeared on the podcast on December 31 and Dr Peter McCullough, who gave the interview on December 13. On the podcast, Malone, a California-born doctor as well as one of the pioneers of mRNA vaccines, claimed that half-a-million excess deaths happened during the pandemic because the US government was disregarding some medicines, without conducting tests on them.
He said, “It's not just Ivermectin, it's hydroxychloroquine. And just to put a marker on that, there are good modeling studies that probably half-a-million excess deaths have happened in the United States through the intentional blockade of early treatment by the US government” before stating that “there was some sort of a concerted effort to suppress the use of hydroxychloroquine.”
Malone also mentioned that “there is clearly a concerted effort on the part of multiple players in the pharmaceutical industry in concordance with the federal government to kill Ivermectin as a potential alternative early treatment strategy. It's fairly cheap because it's easy to make and you know we can get Ivermectin in bulk at less than a penny a dose.”
Besides, without any evidence, the 62-year-old said that the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh knew how to control the pandemic, but due to a deal between Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and US President Joe Biden, the formula has not been revealed. “The observation is there was a decision made, when the virus was just ripping through Uttar Pradesh. It has almost the same population as the United States, it's huge, dense, urban, poor - all the characteristics of the stereotypes of the Indian countryside. The virus is just ripping through there and causing all kinds of death and disease, and the decision was made out of desperation in that province to deploy early treatments as packages widely throughout the province,” he noted.
Malone also told Rogan that getting jabbed after being infected with the virus is a bad idea. He got the infection in February 2020 and later got two doses of Moderna, which apparently resulted in “irregularities of heartbeat, incredible hypertension, pot syndrome, narcolepsy, and restless leg syndrome.”
He also said that figures for death tolls are not trustworthy because hospitals “have a financial incentive to do that.” “I'm not a hospital administrator, but the numbers are quite large. There's something like a three thousand dollar basically death benefit to a hospital if it can be claimed to be Covid. There's a financial incentive to call somebody Covid positive. The CDC made a determination in year one - this is why all of our baseline data is junk,” Malone added.
Another interview that angered many was of Dr McCullough – a Texas-based cardiologist. He told Rogan on December 13, “I saw a trend starting in April, May and June where it became clear that anything we were doing to try to help patients with early treatment was receiving a chill and the chill was coming through academic institutions through the medical literature. I think the capper was in June when there was a fraudulent paper published in Lancet on hydroxychloroquine between Harvard and a company called Surgisphere. And this never happens. Lancet is like the New England Journal Medicine of the World. We check references, we check plagiarism. Believe me, it's a tight world out there.”
McCullough added: “They basically published a fraudulent paper on hydroxychloroquine in Lancet in 2020 around June, and they let it hang up there for two weeks stating that hydroxychloroquine was associated with harm when used in patients with Covid-19.” He also claimed on the podcast, “I testified in the US Senate, November 19, 2020. I told Americans, under oath, that 50 percent of the lives at that time could have been saved. We were at about 250,000 deaths, based on what I knew. I then testified on March 10, 2021 in the Texas Senate, sworn testimony, I upped that to 85 percent of the deaths could have been avoided.”
McCullough also noted that fear was intentionally instilled among people for mass vaccination. “We've had a giant loss of life - a giant number, millions and millions of unnecessary hospitalizations. And it seemed to me and I've told Tucker Carlson and many others, it seems to me early on there was an intentional, very comprehensive suppression of early treatment in order to promote fear, suffering, isolation, hospitalization and death. And it seemed to be completely organized and intentional in order to create acceptance for and then promote mass vaccination,” he said.
The cardiologist also shockingly said that Covid-19 has been created by pharmaceutical companies, governments and health experts. He told Rogan, “If you want to find the evidence that Moderna was working on the vaccine before the virus ever emanated out of the lab; if you wanted to find the collusions and the operations between the Gates Foundation and Gavi and Sepi and Pfizer and Moderna and the vaccine manufacturers and the Wuhan lab and the National Institutes of Health and Ralph Barrack and University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and how all this was organized.”
“If you want to see the Johns Hopkins planning seminar called the Spars Pandemic in 2017, where they had a symposium, people showed up. They wrote up their symposium findings. They published this. It says it's going to be a coronavirus. It's going to be related to MERS and SARS. It's going to come over here to the United States. It's going to shut down cities and frighten people. There's going to be confusion regarding the drug hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin. And we're going to utilize all that in order to railroad the population into mass vaccination. It's laid out in the Johns Hopkins sparse pandemic training seminar. The only thing that got wrong was the year they said it was going to be 2025. Instead, it landed a few years early,” McCullough added.