Idaho murders: Internet wonders if Bryan Kohberger 'creepy crawled' into victims' home like Manson killers

Idaho murders: Internet wonders if Bryan Kohberger 'creepy crawled' into victims' home like Manson killers
Bryan Kohberger was apprehended on December 30, 2022 (YouTube/ABC7, Latah County Jail, Ventura County Jail)

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MOSCOW, IDAHO: Bryan Kohberger is accused of butchering four people to death in a span of minutes. This would have required a good understanding of the layout of the house beforehand, especially for a novice killer. Some believe the criminology student, 28, may have "creepy crawled" the property once or twice -- just like Charles Manson's killers -- to prepare for the quadruple homicide.

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Kohberger is charged with the murders of University of Idaho students Kaylee Goncalves, 21, Xana Kernodle, 20, Ethan Chapin, 20, and Madison Mogen, 21, all of whom were found stabbed to death on November 13 in their rented, off-campus home in Moscow, Idaho. The brutal slayings have dominated headlines for weeks now with sleuths desperately trying to figure out what transpired as law enforcement carries out its own investigation.

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A Reddit discussion speculated whether Kohberger had been inside the 1122 King Road house before the killings, especially considering he was in and out of the doomed residence within a matter of minutes on that frightful November 23 night. "Could Bryan Kohberger have been in the house before the killings?" a Redditor asked in the title of the thread.

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"In trying to piece all of this together one thing that keeps coming up in my mind is: how did he know the layout of the house so well?" they questioned. The user added, "He had to get into the house, without being seen, BUTCHER 4 people IN MINUTES...getting past a dog. And, then simply walk quietly out of the back door, ALL WHILE IN THE DARK, or at least mostly in the dark (there doesn't seem to be much room for 'stumbling your way around' with a plan like that in mind)."

The user, who appears to be a nearby resident, added, "I realize he had been stalking them. But I drive on my route to/from work, passing the same houses every single morning and every single night, and I could not tell you how the rooms are laid out in any one of them. Additionally, this was not a small house. Six bedrooms, three bathrooms, and three stories with at least two stairways, that incidentally, appear to me to be on opposite ends of the house." 

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Many agreed that it was likely that the suspect had been inside the property before the killings with one Redditor proposing he may have "creepy crawled" around the house in order to prevent being detected. "I think he watched the house many times and would not be surprised at all if he creepy crawled, like Manson’s killers, a time or two first," the user responded. "Creepy crawling means going into a home and creeping all around it without being detected. Manson and his disciples did that," they added.

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It's true that Manson ordered his followers to undergo "creepy-crawling" training in the lead-up to the murders they planned. "Charlie wanted the Manson family — about two dozen mostly drug-addled kids — to believe they had the power to enter anyone's home at any time, without the people inside knowing that they were there," Jeff Guinn, author of the biography 'Manson: The Life and Times of Charles Manson', told the Strange podcast in 2016.

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The author added, "And so, he trained them, two or three at a time, to follow him. He would tell them to dress in dark clothes, they would get in the car and then they would drive to some of the fancier residential areas in Los Angeles." Manson was apparently using the creepy crawls as "a sort of horrible spring training" for the back-to-back nights of murders that terrorized Los Angeles in 1969. "They knew some rich people, mostly rock stars," Guinn continued. "And what they would do is try to gain entrance into their homes — a lot of times doors weren't locked or windows weren't completely shut," the author stated.

Guinn went on the note, "Then, while the people inside slept, the creepy crawlers would stealthily rearrange furniture. They might put the dining room table where a living couch had been. And then they'd sneak out, knowing that when the people woke up and saw how things were different, rearranged, they'd know someone had been there inside and could have done anything they'd wanted — murdered them in their beds. And they'd also have no idea who these people were."

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