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'Better Call Saul' Season 6: Creator Vince Gilligan says putting Kim, Jesse in a scene felt 'pleasurable'

We saw Kim Wexler from 'Better Call Saul' meeting Jesse Pinkman from 'Breaking Bad' for the very first time
UPDATED AUG 9, 2022
Rhea Seehorn as Kim Wexler and Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman in 'Better Call Saul' Season 6 Episode 12 (AMC)
Rhea Seehorn as Kim Wexler and Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman in 'Better Call Saul' Season 6 Episode 12 (AMC)

The penultimate episode of ‘Better Call Saul’ Season 6 was an extraordinary tale of devastation and redemption. Things are getting worse for Gene Takovic, aka Saul Goodman, and it seems that a brutal end is waiting for him. However, most of the episode was focused on Kim Wexler and viewers got to know about Kim’s life in the post ‘Breaking Bad’ area. As a lover of the character, it was satisfying seeing her having a life that’s away from all the controversies. However, one phone call from Saul Goodman changed everything.

One of the most pivotal moments of the episodes arrived when the show returned to the current timeline and saw Kim meeting Saul. But if you feel they are reconciling, then you are wrong because they are about to get separated once and for all by signing the divorce papers. After signing the papers, Saul told Kim to “enjoy her free life” and have a nice life. As soon as Kim came outside, a guy standing outside the office asked for a lighter to light his cigarette. It turns out that the man standing there is none other than Jesse Pinkman (Aaron Paul). They get into a conversation about how Kim helped Jesse’s friend when she was a lawyer and how thankful he was for doing that. Their conversation ended with Jesse asking her how good this guy (Saul) is. To which, Kim replied, “When I knew him, he was [good]”.

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The entire conversation made everyone really excited and this was the first time we saw Kim meeting Jesse after ‘Breaking Bad’ and ‘El Camino’ era. However, if you feel that the conversation was bound to take place for a very long time, then you are wrong. While talking about the epic moment, series creator Vince Gilligan revealed that the meeting between Jesse and Kim was “not necessary”, but they always wanted to see these two characters together because they have never heard of each other and represent two different eras.

Vince Gilligan attends the premiere of the sixth and final season of AMC's
Vince Gilligan attends the premiere of the sixth and final season of AMC's "Better Call Saul" at Hollywood Legion Theater on April 07, 2022 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images)

The screenwriter also shared that they had so much “pleasure” while writing and directing that particular scene.

“I just love ‘em both so much. It’s as simple as that. We try to tell these stories as organically as possible, and we do. But a scene like that is, I hate to admit it, just pleasurable to write, pleasurable to direct. It doesn’t really move the plot forward. In strict, organic storytelling terms, it’s not necessary. But it was just fun. And yeah, I love these two. I think we all wanted – I can’t remember who came up with the idea – that we wanted to see those two worlds collide. We couldn’t help ourselves,” Gilligan told Rolling Stone.

Jesse is a prominent character from the ‘Breaking Bad’ universe and never met Kim during that time because Saul and Kim were not together when Walter White and Jesse Pinkman met the lawyer. Also, this might be the last time we see these characters on ‘Better Call Saul’. In a recent interview, Bryan Cranston revealed that he and Aaron Paul shot three scenes out of which one was together. Meanwhile, both actors shot individual scenes as well. So, we saw Walter and Jesse coming together in Episode 11 while tonight’s episode featured Jesse alone.

Bryan Cranston as Walter White, Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman in 'Better Call Saul' Season 6 Episode 11 (AMC)
Bryan Cranston as Walter White, Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman in 'Better Call Saul' Season 6 Episode 11 (AMC)

It’s highly possible that we’ll see Heisenberg making an appearance in the final episode of the series. Nevertheless, we are really nervous about Saul’s life and he might face the consequences of everything he did in the past.

‘Better Call Saul’ Season 6 returns to AMC with a new episode every Monday at 9 pm EST.

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