'After Neverland': Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck reveal how Michael Jackson groomed them

Wade Robson, Jimmy Safechuck, and Dan Reed were invited by Oprah Winfrey to talk further about their controversial documentary 'Leaving Neverland'


                            'After Neverland': Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck reveal how Michael Jackson groomed them

The release of Dan Reed's 'Leaving Neverland' that focussed on the stories of Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck, who claim they were sexually abused by Michael Jackson when they were children, has once again put the spotlight back on the King of Pop's alleged predatory behavior. The documentary has also brought to question Jackson's propensity of having several children around his Neverland mansion at all times, though his estate quickly moved to squash Robson's and Safechuck's allegations, claiming they only featured to make some quick money.

Nonetheless, 'Leaving Neverland' caught the attention of Oprah Winfrey, who had previously highlighted the topic of child sexual abuse in 217 different episodes on her network.



 

Winfrey, in what was deemed to be a controversial move, invited Robson, Safechuck, and Reed to talk further about the documentary, and the former two spoke in length about why they took so long to come out with their stories. 

During the interview, which was titled 'After Neverland', Robson first spoke about how, as a young child, he did not know what Jackson was doing to him constituted abuse and that he genuinely did not know he was being mistreated. "From night one of the abuse, of the sexual stuff that Michael did to me, he told me that it was love," he said.

Oprah Winfrey invited Reed, Robson, and Safechuck to talk about 'Leaving Neverland' 
(Source: YouTube/HBO)
Oprah Winfrey invited Reed, Robson, and Safechuck to talk about 'Leaving Neverland'
(Source: YouTube/HBO)

"He told me that he loved me and that God brought us together," Robson continued. "I was this little boy from the other side of the world in Australia and Michael was a God to me. And now, someone who was God to me was telling me, 'I love you. God brought us together', and this sexual stuff was how we show our love."

Many had questioned Robson's story, pointing out that he had testified in Jackson's defense during his mid-2000s trial. Robson explained the reason he did so was because of how he had been "trained" by Jackson from the moment he met the singer. "Anything that Michael was going to say to me was gospel," Robson said.  "From the first night on, he started training me, for what ended up happening when I was 22 with the trials."

Both Robson and Safechuck explained how they were groomed by Jackson (Source: YouTube/HBO)
Both Robson and Safechuck explained how they were groomed by Jackson (Source: YouTube/HBO)

 

Safechuck elaborated on Robson's point of how Jackson groomed his victims. "He wedges a space between you and your parents, and you and the rest of the world" he explained. "He works very hard at that. So, it's you and him against the world."

He also revealed a part of the reason Jackson's victims found it so hard to come out with their stories and wouldn't testify against him was because of how the singer conditioned them to think doing so would harm them as well. "Michael had drilled in you over and over as a kid that if you're caught and if we're caught, your life is over. It's repeated over and over and over again. That's just drilled into your nervous system."

Both Robson and Safechuck also agreed that they were able to speak out against Jackson because they went on to have children of their own. "You don't connect with yourself as a child," Safechuck said. "You don't have any sympathy for yourself, or empathy. There's a disconnect and you're like, 'I don't relate to that kid.' But when you have your own kid, it's a way for you to bridge that. You see yourself in him and you can see what kids are actually like." 

Watch a segment of 'After Neverland' here: