Brother and sister with 4 children together fight to make incest LEGAL
German siblings who fell in love and had four children together continue to advocate for the abolition of laws prohibiting their incest relationship. Patrick Syuebing was reunited with his younger sister Susan Karolewski more than 20 years after he was attacked by their father and transferred into a foster home in what was then East Germany.
Following the death of their mother, Ana Marie, six months after re-discovering his original family, the then 23-year-old and Susan, who is mentally challenged, began sharing a bedroom together. Their unlawful relationship resulted in the birth of four children, two of whom are seriously disabled. In 2001, the two pledged to reform Germany's laws against sibling sex, which they took to the European Court of Human Rights in 2012.
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During that time, Patrick also served two jail sentences for incest crimes. Patrick said at the time, according to Mail Online, “We do not feel guilty about what has happened between us. We want the law which makes incest a crime to be abolished. I became head of the family and I had to protect my sister. She is very sensitive but we helped each other during this very difficult period and eventually that relationship became physical."
"We didn't even know we were doing anything wrong when we started sleeping together. We didn't think about using a condom. We didn't know it was illegal to sleep together. Our mother would not have approved, but the only ones who should judge us now is us,” he added. Susan has defended their relationship, claiming that they did not know each other as children because her brother moved out when he was three years old after their now-deceased father attacked him with a knife.
She said, “We didn't know each other in childhood, it's not the same for us. We fell in love as adults and our love is real. There is nothing we could do about it. We were both attracted to each other and then nature took over from us. It was that simple. What else could we do? We followed our instincts and our hearts." Her brother also had a vasectomy in the hopes of persuading the judges to let him live with his sister without risking extra prison time. He said, "There is no reason for them to jail me now. I do not want to go back to jail and I know we will never voluntarily leave each other. If anyone doubts our love they should just see we will not be kept apart."
According to Criminaldefenselawyer.com, in the USA, between consenting adults, incest is illegal. Incest between consenting adults is not a criminal violation in New Jersey or Rhode Island, however, neither state allows marriage. Incest with 16-17-year-olds is also criminalized in New Jersey, which elevates the severity of juvenile sex offenses by a degree if they are also siblings. Ohio allows incest between consenting adults, only when one person is not a parent figure to the other.